Right now we are reloading. I'm kind of curious what these same loads will do in my Bolt. 8gr of CFE 223. 27 grains CFE-223 55 grain FMJBT 24. I loaded rounds in 5 different calibers. Ok here it is, I went to the local shop and the staff were unpacking cfe 223, I grabbed one went home and loaded some up the goal was to get a 308 Lapua 155 up to 3000 fps or close, not to unrealstic as listed data at 2966. 243 Winchester (Hodgdon CFE 223 Data) reloading data with 16 loads. 62? According to the data I have read, they are faster, "deliver consistent performance with excellent accuracy, and are cleaner by removing "copper fouling from your barrel". I'm using lighter weight bullets to reduce the recoil due to the painful arthritis I have in my shoulders. Copper Fouling Eraser (CFE) formula helps to deter copper fouling. I am loading the. I can't find much on the FTX bullets. 223 load and their 69 gr bullet- meaning again, 5. The buyer/user assumes full responsibility, risk, and liabilities for all injuries (including death), damages, and/or losses to persons or properties resulting from the use/misuse of these products. I would not want a compressed load in my gun, but thats just me. I loaded rounds in 5 different calibers. I will say you'll get good velocity. Hodgdon CFE BLK. I got 8 lbs of CFE 223 to use later. Anybody tried CFE 223 powder for loading 30-06 or other "unlisted" calibers yet? I know Hodgdon published data for 223, 308 Win, and etc. We worked our round up a bit and found that a powder charge of 11. Loads for. It meters very well and gives low standard deviations, usually less than 20 fps. I seat at 1. I have heard somewhere that CFE223 and Alliant Power Pro 2000 MR are the same powder, but can't confirm that - their (different) mfgr/distributor load data certainly isn't identical, but they are both slower powders, with similar claims of higher FPS. 300 AAC Blackout is also finding use with hunters, who may not have been able to legally hunt with. I'm using CFE 223 in my 5. I even found very good data for. 224 HPBT, and need your most accurate load data. 210" 27 when working up some loads for the 223 the stated velocity for blc-2 shows higher. Only use load data from a printed manual from a reputable manufacturer. Looking for some load data/advice for 223. 223 load and their 69 gr bullet- meaning again, 5. com) for more information on bullet selection. 157 Ballistic. 5 inch barrel, Hornady for example shows 26. Introducing new CFE BLK Gun Powder from Hodgdon. I'll be using an 18" 1-7 Bison 223 Wylde. 9-48gr across once I found my OCW for this combo that I'm running. This ingredient, originally used in military propellant, greatly deters copper fouling. Along with I RECENTLY passionately advise the idea. Both super- and subsonic loads are said to work very well with the CFE BLK. The bullet companies will only worl with their bullet and the powder companies use the more popular bullets to start when developing data for a new product. blurb on the 350 Remington Magnum and CFE 223, as. 223 loads with 50 and 60 grain V-Max bullets. 243 Winchester (Hodgdon CFE 223 Data) reloading data with 16 loads. I cant seem to find alot of load info withe CFE powder since its relatively new any help would be appreciated. Not at home at the moment, but also have a load for this with Win 760. Make sure you don't see any fraudulent charges. CFE-223, Hornady 75gr HPBT, 1gr increments up to last load which is. Military brass can have less case capacity because of heavier construction, and often yields higher pressures. ) (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders. Along with I RECENTLY passionately advise the idea. While it meters well, we wanted precisely equal powder charges for each round for this testing, so all powder charges were weighed using an RCBS Chargemaster 1500 dispensing scale. 5gr shot in Feb and then yesterday, here in the Good ole Show Me. On the Ramshot web site list load data for 223 and 308 but not for 7. Thanks Carl. I'm planning on using CFE 223 powder. Through the 16-inch barrel of an Anderson Manufacturing AR, a suggested maximum charge of CFE 223 powder loaded into a Winchester. 223 Johnny's Reloading Bench Duplicating Mk 262 Mod 1 - ep1 - Factory Black Hills 77gr OTM tests - Duration: 33:15. Aren't the pressures for 5. Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums data is far better than anyone's "pet load" that you will get here. With 55 and 60 grain Ballistic Tip and V Max bullets, CFE 223 has been good, but not yet quite equal to the accuracy of those other powders, but I still have a lot of load development to do. Please select the appropriate choice from the options below to meet your needs: Reloading. I can't be responsible for typos or other errors here. The good news is that the. Handloaders can have a ball working 224 Valkyrie loads. Reading the individuals opinions of Rifle Loading Cfe 223 Powder In Service Rifles before obtained. Hornady Grendel 123 Cfe 223 Load Data is often a preferent choose most of us. 223 Remington handloads. What is the current load Data for CFE 223 with a 55gr bullet? Is the max load a compressed load? Did you work your load up from min. My goal is to get the most accurate load using as little powder as possible. Squid: you could use BisQuick with 55's and be okay, so CFE 223 will handle 55's but once you go to 80's it just is all over the map : inconsistent performance regardless of Hodgdon or Hornady load data. 45 were higher than Hodgdon's values, and were faster than CFE Pistol with the 230-grain bullets but not the 200-grain bullet. The new powder is called CFE 223 (Copper Fouling Eraser). Starting with the first cartridge, the. Greg PS: CFE 223 did not exist when that chart was made. 5 Creedmoor. Since this is my first actual reload I'd like to start out without a bang. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. 243 Winchester (Hodgdon CFE 223 Data) reloading data with 16 loads. I realize that not all surplus tracers will ignite and that mil-spec loads use a specially formulated powder to ensure a TAC, Viht N-133, Varget, IMR 3031, CFE EDIT: VV doesn't list N-133 with a 62gr bullet. Its granules are smaller than Longshot, 231 and Unique, but larger than Silhouette. Thanks Carl. 224 Valkyrie. ) (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders. A database of. Thanks, mj52. Hodgdon CFE. Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data. Making 1 ragged hole with 3 shots in both. I am new to reloading and have once fired. I would strongly suggest starting about 45gr and working my way up to find the most accurate charge for the range you will be shooting at. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge. Remember: the maximum charge listed by Hodgdon is the charge weight at which they have NO pressure excursions over SAAMI max pressures. 223 Rem AI only has about 8% more capacity than the parent case, the best thing to do is to start with a known, good load for the. 75 gr 223 load data, 75 hpbt tac, blc2 75gr hpbt 223 remington, cfe-223 and 75 bthp, h335 75 grain 223, reloading data for 556. REDUCE RIFLE AND HANDGUN CHARGE WEIGHTS BY 10% TO ESTABLISH A STARTING LOAD. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. Same load 47. Especially if you can give me a FPS. I am looking for load data for using 55gr Hornady Z-Max bullets and using CFE223. I use it in my 6. V-MAX bullets in my new rifle. * Recommended Powder C Compressed Load 6 55-grain TSX FB / TAC-X FB Sectional Density. works extremely well in the 223 Remington, 17 Remington, 22 PPC and or course, the 308 Winchester, plus many more. FMJBT ? In a perfect world your brass is a huge component, more important that what most people think. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7. CFE actually stands for “copper fouling eraser. Currently our website contains all of the data we can supply. This carbine would be used to gather data on Hodgdon’s new CFE BLK powder, which is formulated specifically for 300 BLK subsonic loads. However, I really wanted to use Hodgdon CFE 223, it had worked so well in the 8 x 57mm with 150gr bullets, accurate and over 2900fps MV. I'm not really interested in anything that won't work in my Dillon measure. 223 because my favorite IMR8208 was not available. Don't see a load you want to use or want to input your own?. It'll give you a much fuller understanding of the pros and cons of it. 0 grains Winchester […]. 223 load and their 69 gr bullet- meaning again, 5. 1gr I'm wondering if I should developed that charge weight and run it across the crony I only did the 47. You may be thinking 223 max pressures, my test weapon has a Wylde chamber and 18. It's great powder from what I gathered. Well, on with the CFE 223 stuff. 4 grains for bolt actions. I have tried several loads in CM with 4350, varget and RL15. You can almost interchange the load data with Blackout. jpg Similar Threads: Load data; Load data duplicates M80 load. Very nice report nofail I just figured out my load for the cfe 223 and the 168 Amax but after seeing your numbers for the 47. charge or just start at 27. I had settled on CFE 223 since it shows to give good 13 Responses to Journey to Find a F-Class Load:. We recommend caution when using military brass for the 223, and suggest starting at or below the minimum loads listed. 3gr and 2468fps. Hodgdon CFE223 Smokeless Powder 8 Lbs is now available from Midsouth. Its granules are smaller than Longshot, 231 and Unique, but larger than Silhouette. The biggest advantage to using CFE in 223/5. Sometimes in today's powder-shortage market it comes down to finding the best that is actually in stock on the shelves of your dealer. But until all that info arrives, it's best to start with. Loading for the AR-15 with the LEE Auto-Drum Powder Measure Here on Ultimate Reloader you can count on a LOT of AR-15 content coming over the next year: everything from reloading. handloads, I’ve been using several new propellants from Alliant and Hodgdon, including Alliant’s AR-Comp and Power Pro series. I have read on another forum that a guy was using 25grs of the cfe but did not post an oal. range and gave us a 5-shot group of 1. 0 grains as a starting point and a max of 27. It'll give you a much fuller understanding of the pros and cons of it. 30/06 using the lighter bullets 150gr. It's great powder from what I gathered. Based on tests with extended shot strings, Hodgdon claims that, by using CFE™223, match shooters, varmint hunters, and AR shooters can maintain accuracy for longer periods, with less barrel-cleaning time. 1 grs, 3500 fps, 1/3" class accuracy, still tweaking it. 5 g pressuer started, flatened primer. Sierra lists Varget 26. nightforceoptics. 223 in their state, and who prefer. Hornady Grendel 123 Cfe 223 Load Data is often a preferent choose most of us. I even found very good data for. On the other hand, 4064 meters horribly. Load data, Hodgdon CFE? This is a discussion on Load data, Hodgdon CFE? within the Ammo and Reloading forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Hey all, I ran across some Hodgdon CFE and jumped on it, given the general state of affairs when it comes to pistol powder. Available in 1 lb. Hornady Grendel 123 Cfe 223 Load Data is often a preferent choose most of us. Don't see a load you want to use or want to input your own?. My general purpose load of H-335 with the 55 Gr. Additionally, using the SPLIT function, you can split element values that contain a separator and load them as an array. In your case Hodgdon CFE 223 actually is a good powder and you can use Hodgdon on-line data to experiment with as previously posted. I'm determining optimum load for several of my guns this year, so I've been powder: IMR 4166 I nominate H4831 with an honorable mention to IMR4350. Hodgdon CFE 223. This is a discussion on First Test of Hodgdon CFE 223 - Beware within the Ammunition forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; I've been running some ladder tests with a few powders in my GAP. I spent a few weeks tracking down data from various sources. 300 AAC Blackout is also finding use with hunters, who may not have been able to legally hunt with. For the 120gr TSX, I would begin with the start load listed in Hornady's data, and build a trend line with your chronograph or magneto. Since the. I also appreciate this solid advice! Was reading alot about the CFE223, and was amazed at the velocities achieved in 5. Reload load data 6mm powder bullets Hodgdon Vihtavuori Lapua We could fill a book with 6mm BR reloading recipes, case prep secrets, accurizing tips, and miscellaneous voodoo. M1 Garand 30-06 Loading Data Suggestions All Loads To Be Used At Your Own Risk. I used the on-line Hodgdon Reloading Data Center to obtain maximum powder charges and muzzle velocities for each load, and other on-line tools to calculate other ballistic data. Hodgdon's online reloading center might be able to help. 223 load), but the burn rate struck me as something likely to be excellent in. 7gr's? Tell us some more back ground please. I can't answer your question about sensitivity as I've only been using it for 2 weeks. You have yours, I have mine. Modern Loading Data 9mm, 45 acp, 30-06. If it is accepted, your story will be printed on our site, with your name in the by-line. Thats my opinion. of Quickload maximum loads, but does recognize the Quickload software tool as a good estimator of starting loads and theoretical ballistic output. 62×39 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. I am using. Since the. 223 Rem loads and work up. Along with I RECENTLY passionately advise the idea. 3 grains of IMR-8208XBR and averaged. Hodgdon CFE 223. I would imagine the reason the OP is getting extreme spread of 147 fps, etc. Advertise on GunHive. 233 I've got three boxes of the ammo, 300 of the 53g Vmax and a couple pounds of N133. I’m only sharing this load information here for illustrative purposes to point out the diversity of the 300 AAC Blackout. Favorite Pistol Load Data: **A Shooting Chrony Beta Master was used for testing. 223 Remington Rifle (FN=Flat Nose, SP= Spire Point, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose) JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point, FMJ=Full Metal Jacket) Loads for. And the twist was a nice addition. I'm kind of curious what these same loads will do in my Bolt. My problem is the CFE 223 has only been out since this January and I cant find much load data for it. I loaded 27. It's great powder from what I gathered. Based on their data for a 90 grain. Then they shot 100 rounds of factory and photographed heavy copper fouling all down the bore and followed up with 100 rounds w/ CFE-223 and the bore was virtually clean. 223 in their state, and who prefer. 6gr and a max of 49. Most of the time, I will use a plated 230 gr rn from various sources such as Berrys & Montana. I paired CFE 223 and Varget with Hornady 55-gr. Rifle: Savage 12FV with PacNor SSSM 1:8 27" barrel, Leupold 8. 62mm NATO, plus many, many more. Looking to see if anyone has tried CFE223 in a 6. I finally did get to the range today to run my test ladder of the 95 SMK's with CFE-223. I even found very good data for. Just bought a pound of CFE223 and some Hornady 55gr FMJs. Anybody tried CFE 223 powder for loading 30-06 or other "unlisted" calibers yet? I know Hodgdon published data for 223, 308 Win, and etc. 95gr SMK load data. Both super- and subsonic loads are said to work very well with the CFE BLK. ttsx or tsx. I would imagine the reason the OP is getting extreme spread of 147 fps, etc. Through the 16-inch barrel of an Anderson Manufacturing AR, a suggested maximum charge of CFE 223 powder loaded into a Winchester. 223 Rem loads and work up. If you load 1,000 rounds at 7gr and another 1,000 @ 8gr of powder, the 7gr load would need 1 lb of powder, where as the 8gr load would need 1lb + 1/7th of a pound. Enables reloaders to duplicate certain medium rifle heavy bullet factory loads. 223 Remington Rifle: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. CFE actually stands for “copper fouling eraser. Load data, Hodgdon CFE? This is a discussion on Load data, Hodgdon CFE? within the Ammo and Reloading forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Hey all, I ran across some Hodgdon CFE and jumped on it, given the general state of affairs when it comes to pistol powder. 56mm NATO, 22-250 Remington and the 308 Winchester/7. It's great powder from what I gathered. When I get a chance to chrono some loads I'll share my thoughts. My first attempt at a subsonic 223 remington load was with 70 grain Speer semi-spitzers and standard primers. Jason Baney has acquired a. Same load 47. Reloading The. Had a kind of weird day shooting OCW/ladders in my AR15 yesterday. Get tight groups, repeatable cloverleafs and uniform loads. I am not expecting great accuracy as these are not noted for it, but fine for plinking/SHTF. So, if any of you have any data you would be willing to share I would greatly appreciate it. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. I am looking for load data to start with using these components. com Always comply with all local, state, federal, and international laws. It's just slightly slower than Varget, and directly below CFE-223 on the burn rate chart. all signs were good with marginal accuracy. 5 gr and no higher than 25. 45 were higher than Hodgdon's values, and were faster than CFE Pistol with the 230-grain bullets but not the 200-grain bullet. ) Bullet is. Reload load data 6mm powder bullets Hodgdon Vihtavuori Lapua We could fill a book with 6mm BR reloading recipes, case prep secrets, accurizing tips, and miscellaneous voodoo. There are two options for acquiring data on the Hodgdon website. Only use load data from a printed manual from a reputable manufacturer. My first attempt at a subsonic 223 remington load was with 70 grain Speer semi-spitzers and standard primers. I've got a Cooper model 21 in 223 Remington coming today. This is a discussion on VMD value for Hodgdon CFE 223 within the Ammo and Reloading forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Okay friends, another reloading question. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get. My opinion of this powder is really good. When I get a chance to chrono some loads I'll share my thoughts. 223 Remington Rifle. Been reading this site for a while. I also appreciate this solid advice! Was reading alot about the CFE223, and was amazed at the velocities achieved in 5. Relative Quickness Chart is for reference only, not for load development. RIFLE RELOADING DATA 1. 9-48gr across once I found my OCW for this combo that I'm running. It's great powder from what I gathered. 56 for the AR? I see CFE 223 on the shelf quite a bit, as well as ARComp, and use it in 30-06, 308 and 223. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type. 375 H&H bolt guns years ago, and switched to the AR platforms for reduced recoil. ) Look at Hodgdon's data - CFE hits its stride at 50-gr bullets and up, and provides top velocity behind 50 to 69-grain bullets, alongside Varget. GUNHIVE does not become involved in transactions between parties. has no control over the actual components selected, the manner in which they are assembled or the condition of the firearm used, no responsibility, either expressed or implied is assumed for the use of this data. 62mm NATO, plus many, many more. When I do load developement for this powder, my primary concern will be one of safety. 95gr SMK load data. 223 using used PMC cases, Sierra 50 gr. Johnny's Reloading Bench 36,409 views. It is going to provide you with a considerably comprehension while using the positives and disadvantages from it. In your case Hodgdon CFE 223 actually is a good powder and you can use Hodgdon on-line data to experiment with as previously posted. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. 17 Remington,. I also believe it was primarily used /designed for the AR-15 length bbls. Based on tests with extended shot strings, Hodgdon claims that, by using CFE™223, match shooters, varmint hunters, and AR shooters can maintain accuracy for longer periods, with less barrel-cleaning time. To that end, loaders should gradually increase charge weight from the starting load. 5 Grendel CFE 223 Load Data On Hogdon's Website I have seen several threads here and on other sites where people are using CFE 223 for the 6. 223 load, I loaded up some 6. I will be making rounds of. 223 Remington/5. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge. Has anyone used either of these new powders in reloading. where can I find this data or do I need to go buy a 4th book? Thanks, mj52 I went to Hodgdon's site and it gives me 2 different 55 gr bullets but not this one. I know it was close to max though and shot pretty good last year, but when I went to check the same load this year it didn't shoot nearly as well and i switched over to varget. Just bought a pound of CFE223 and some Hornady 55gr FMJs. Jason Baney has acquired a. I also compared that data with other recent loading manuals just to make sure caution prevailed with my test loads. Well, on with the CFE 223 stuff. Relative Quickness Chart is for reference only, not for load development. In my research for powders that I have on hand, CFE 223 and Accurate 2460, my starting load is 25 GR for either one. 224 Valkyrie Ballistics Data As I see it, Federal's plan for the. 224 Valkyrie brass handloads, although Hodgdon's CFE 223 is probably the best powder overall. Aren't the pressures for 5. (Posted on 10/26/2016) CFE 223 & Everglades Ammo Review by Larry. I get the whole range from below 0 to 100+ and would prefer to have one, maybe 2 loads, not one or every 25 degree increment. You have yours, I have mine. However, I really wanted to use Hodgdon CFE 223, it had worked so well in the 8 x 57mm with 150gr bullets, accurate and over 2900fps MV. I have velocitys and load data for Berger 70 VLD and 40 grain VMax if interested. that shot pretty good but yesterday in the heat lemme tell you those CFE 223 loads were Stout No popped primers or even flattened but man did the recoil jump as well as FPS. I'd like to use CFE 223 in a. 45 were higher than Hodgdon's values, and were faster than CFE Pistol with the 230-grain bullets but not the 200-grain bullet. 4 grains for bolt actions. 62mm NATO, plus many, many more. 30 caliber bullets for medium-sized game. 3031? about to just split the difference between 150gr and 170gr data? I really want a starting point for CFE223 because I'm looking for a powder that will measure well in a Dillon powder measure but also work for 223, 243, 308 with 175gr smk and 8mm mauser I already loaded a tesst batch of BLC2. Looking for between 100-500 yards, have most pills available was thinking something 65-77grn. Does this sound like what everybody is using? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIMG_3166. I am not expecting great accuracy as these are not noted for it, but fine for plinking/SHTF. I included almost every Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester propellant (from H322 to CFE 223) listed in the Hodgdon Annual Manual. Jason Baney has acquired a. I know it was close to max though and shot pretty good last year, but when I went to check the same load this year it didn't shoot nearly as well and i switched over to varget. 223 Remington 60-62 gr. I'm using CFE 223 and Sierra 55Gr bthp (#1390) and can't find load data on-line. If you want to buy Hornady 75 Gr Bthp Match Load Data Cfe 223. 62×39 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. SPR SP Hodgdon CFE 223. CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. 223 Remington/5. choice of firearms and components used, no responsibility for the use of this data is implied or assumed. Varget hits the sweet spot for the best performance in this cartridge. Very nice report nofail I just figured out my load for the cfe 223 and the 168 Amax but after seeing your numbers for the 47. Johnny's Reloading Bench 36,409 views. I've used CFE 223 in 223 Rem behind 50-gr TNT in my stock R-700 with very good results. 9 FPS and still cycle the action reliably. Plus a wide variety of reloading & shooting accessories, and gun maintenance vises. The CFE-223 loads left the bore virtually new and unscathed w/ copper. Just food for thought. I tried 8208 but it seemed to spike pressure wise at near max loads. CFE 223 yields top velocities in many cartridges such as the 204 Ruger, 223 Remington/5. In some instances starting loads are also listed. 0 grains as a starting point and a max of 27. between a die. Thanks guys for info. 223 loadings. 458 Socom Load Data; Load Data for 45 ACP 185. I've bought new load guides as recently as a couple of years ago but none of them have these powders. This is my last work up with the CFE. sult, for the canister market, is CFE 223 (for Copper Fouling Eraser and its target cartridge, the. Being a spherical powder, metering is superbly accurate. ) (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders. I can't find much on the FTX bullets. Had a kind of weird day shooting OCW/ladders in my AR15 yesterday. When I get a chance to chrono some loads I'll share my thoughts. Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data. 223 using used PMC cases, Sierra 50 gr. Starting at above MAX published data is a poor way to begin your loading experience with Garand ammo loading.